
Brad Gardner
Founder and CTO of Seven Hills Technology, a Cincinnati-based software consultancy focused on custom web, mobile, and AI solutions.
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Jul 29, 2026
The First Customer - Solving Operational Problems Nobody Talks About with Founder Brad Gardner
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Jay AgnerHOST
But I mean, what is the future of that pass through? Do you think if it just continues to climb and it is 10 to 20 to 30 times in the next year or two?

Brad GardnerGUEST
So with the rapid efficiency gain for people who are confident with AI, it changes our pricing model where we're looking at either higher time and materials rates or pushing more towards fixed bid and retainer models.

Brad GardnerGUEST
And that's one thing and that's one way to kind of like help push that cost through a little bit because there's a cost for us to use the AI, but...

Brad GardnerGUEST
On a lot of projects, it's so far because it's so heavily subsidized, it's been relatively immaterial.

Brad GardnerGUEST
But as that picture changes, it's just going to be a moving target where I think there's a lot of pressure for them to stop subsidizing as much.

Brad GardnerGUEST
But also, if they do that, it threatens their business model because people are using the token counts that they are because it's subsidized.
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