How do they con- how do, how do they stay competitive without realigning conferences?

I think it's a balance between scholastic recruiting and NIL, Jim.

You still have to recruit high school players, and you still have to try to hope to develop them because the easy way out, of course, is to pay them and have them for a year or two.

You gotta win games.

It's that simple.

You gotta win.

I mean, you have to put a roster together that's gonna win because also, don't forget, 18 team conference.

Mm.