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Oct 13, 2026
Protege CEO Bobby Samuels on why synthetic data is always 18 months away, what an AI learns from a failed airline, and the data nobody has unlocked yet
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Bobby SamuelsGUEST
... area, I would contend that it is faster, cheaper, and higher quality to go through us than to try to do it yourself.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
There is certainly some risk buffering, too, where we are taking on certain risks around de-identification that they don't need to.
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Daisy WolfHOST
Can you explain that a little bit more in detail? Like when is synthetic data useful? When do you need real world data?

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
So Synthetic data, like the way I think about it is there are like three buckets.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
People would describe synthetic data differently, but this is the way I conceptualize it.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
You have synthetic data, which is data that's created by models to train models.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
You have manufactured data, which is data basically created by people to train models.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
Then you have real world data, which is data that is an exhaust from people living their lives and companies doing their things.
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Akash PasrichaHOST
And so do you have technology in here or is it very much just relationships like I connect this company to that company? It's a combination.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
So we have about 150 data partners at this point across different parts of the data world.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
So sort of a lot of the killer features, so to speak, is the data liquidity that we've built.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
Because the raw data is often critical, but it needs to have additional work on top of that.

Bobby SamuelsGUEST
In video, for instance, we've seen the desire for large amounts of content be consistent, but then there's also desire for smaller bits of content that have... differential characteristics like the wind blowing through trees or things like that.