How did you get involved with Marty in the first place?

So when I opened American Recreation, we, we build playgrounds, uh, for schools and government.

And, um, Marty came to me and he says, "Hey, you know, my buddy Kenny Shroy, uh, uh, he left his last, uh, employer and he's looking for something.

Do you wanna meet him?" I said, "Sure." And they were roommates on the Jets, and I was friendly with Marty.

Kenny came in.

Kenny worked for us.

We hired him.

When you think about just your involvement to where we are now, watching the, the charity evolve with Marty at the helm of it here, what, how much has Marty Lyons meant to you?