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Bobbi Jo

Australian wildlife photographer, zookeeper, and safari guide who hosts the Safari Life with Bobby-Jo podcast

Jul 15, 2026

CaitlinHOST
4:42
[laughs]
4:43
No. It's way worse than that.
4:44
So we start driving, and he turns on some music.
4:48
And he's got, like, those, uh, you know that, like, crazy sound system that people have? You know, like, back in, when we were in high school-
RiggsHOST
6:12
Mm
6:12
... literally everyone is turning and looking at us.
6:17
The car, I mean, it was shaking.
6:18
The car was literally shaking, and then you rolled the windows down to, I don't know what, show off so other people-
5:11
Yes, yeah,
5:11
it just came out in October.
5:14
And so tell me a little bit about that.
5:16
How did the book come about? It came out very organically.
5:21
I took a class, and throughout the class, there were several reflection pieces, and you had to keep applying each aspect of motivational interviewing to your career experience.
5:34
Just, I saw all the puzzle pieces coming together.
5:37
I saw this, and I could explain it with this.
8:23
And so yourself, where do you think that you're going to be going with the motivational interviewing? Are you going to be doing some guest speaking on it?
6:23
There was something else that had happened that placed some of the people who had been with Brianna and Brandon earlier in the evening not far from the gas station where Brianna was last seen, though it's not entirely clear exactly who was there during that specific window of time.
6:38
It's in the same town.
6:39
Flint Township's pretty big.
6:41
She could have walked.
6:42
It could have been a long walk, but as inebriated, I don't think she could have walked very far at all.
6:47
Neither Brandon nor Brianna had a vehicle.
6:50
From my understanding, Brandon had a roommate named Ashley, and either Ashley had a car or Ashley's boyfriend had a car.

37 MINS LATER

43:32
If anything, they believed it may have placed her at a greater risk.
38:20
On top of the suspicions surrounding Brianna's phone and the footage, Bobbi Jo told us about another detail involving Brianna's belongings that never sat right with her.
38:29
On top of it, he claims that after he was on his way home, he found her purse and chucked it out the window because he didn't want his fiancée to find it.
38:37
So when you put the whole thing together, he must have known how intoxicated, inebriated, under the influence she was, and he just let her walk off? He didn't call the cops.
38:46
He didn't take her to a hospital.
38:47
He didn't say, "How about you call your dad? How about you call..." He just left her.
38:51
But if he wanted to give her a ride for help, where did the help come in? Okay, you thought you were gonna do the right thing, give her a ride to help, but then in the end, you actually didn't help her.
39:01
He claims to be very Christian and non-drinking and non-drugging and doesn't claim to have given her anything.

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46:33
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