Could you talk a little bit about your dad and about sort of what kind of impact he had on you and what made you want to carry on the torch?

Well, I'm actually in my 33rd year in the business my father started.

My father had passed two years ago.

But, you know, he was in health care material management from the late 60s, you know, material manager, vice president of support services and working for consulting firms.

And then he went out on his own.

And so he as far as value analysis, he was right there at the very beginning with the purchasing managers association.

Remember, you know, that they had that.

Talk about that.