Is version control the only fixed practice, or should we be setting the bar higher?

Well, I think you kind of led the witness a bit there.

It's a bit like, uh, it's a bit like the lawyer who asks a question at trial where they already know the answer.

[laughs] No, we want, we definitely wanna set the bi- bar higher than just version control at this day and age.

I mean, that just has to be the case.

Um, there are practices that are out there that have been established that we just know that, that we know that they work.

Quite frankly, they've been around for 10, 15, 20 years at this point in time, if not longer than some practices I remember in previous episodes Steve and I have been talking about that go, date back to the, the, the '60s and '70s.

So continuing the theme of feedback, who's got a good story about a team they worked on where the feedback zinged, it really worked? 'Cause I think that could be, like, a good inspiration here of, like, "Here's an example of it working really well."