So so but who were those early mentors and guides? Who are the people that you've sort of modeled your philosophy alongside with? And and which kind of early lessons do you still carry in that respect? That's

a really good question.

I am my podcast.

I always ask.

successful people have a successful career anyway.

What was the improbable jump? Because there are jumps you make in your career, but you say, OK, that's logical.

I need to see some of the how the hell did that happen? And the one I think was my improbable job was I was making a dollar sixty five an hour as a on air radio personality in Brookhaven, Mississippi, town of about eight thousand people at the time.

So I just became that old person who doesn't understand where we're headed.