[laughs]

Uh, God took me from the Bible Belt and the buckle of the Bible Belt to Berkeley, and that was a PhD.

But anyway, uh, uh, encountering those folks, uh, was a challenge, and, and I had to go out there by myself, and I would have at some points in time, uh, 100 kids around me, uh, debating.

And they love to debate.

They love to argue.

And, um It took, uh, a lot of, uh, courage and dependence on the Lord and a lot of prayer to, uh, be willing to stand up there and confront and know that you're going to have resistance.

But it's a calling from God.

Wow.