it's not your choice.

I'm glad you said that because I was just about to say that.

Maybe that's not the path that they see themselves on.

So then we have to create career pathways.

So we introduce them to the labor fields, trades organizations.

We introduce them to technology.

We've had career fest where entrepreneurs come.

How do you get to these young people to get, like 100 black men can have the best program in the world, but nobody's signing up for those programs.