Why don't we just sort of ask them or, or get involved in their lives and, and see what they need? Um, so relationship's a big part of where to start with this.

Yeah, and, and I, I...

Forgive me, I, I may have shared it previously, but even so, you might be hearing it for the first time this morning as you're listening.

But relationships are certainly key, especially if you're working in the sort of children's and youth sector in your community.

So engaging your local school is not just about going to that school and going, "How can I come in and talk about Jesus?" Which is a great thing, but actually it's more about the relationship with that school.

Like, head teachers want you to go and go, "How can we serve you as a school? How can we build a relationship with you as a school?" And I, I think I've mentioned it about the pray, bake, read that Lichfield Diocese, uh, organized several years ago.

It's probably 20 years ago now.

Mm-hmm.