I'm, I'm a very inquisitive fellow, so I like to find out about people's lives and what have you.

Well, I'll just, I'll just say, I'll just leave the original company name off and just say it was, what we did is, um, it was a variation on working for somebody else, but it, we were building, again, building television systems again.

And, uh, but it was all over the country this time.

And then we morphed into, about 20 years ago, we changed that company to a company we call Intent Digital, and we started doing that but then we got into...

Along the way, we got into electronic voting systems for city councils and, um, legislatures and public meetings and such, and got...

It, it became not just the video and the broadcast, but the voting and the agenda and all those things that go on during a public meeting.

So that was really interesting because there was, we, we developed control systems, and so we make things turn on and off remotely, whatever.

So then when would it have been, what year would it have been that you started getting the operations on the railroad?