What about you, Bob?

My biggest thing with this, and something that started for me, I'm gonna back up a little bit.

20 something, between 20 and 25 years ago, I got invited to teach at a, um, dog scout camp to teach detection, and I was working with, you know, pet dog people.

And, uh, I remember calling Karen after the first session saying, "What do I do?" Because a lot of these dogs don't have air drive, you know? [laughs] I mean, there is, like, nothing there.

And she said, "Just do what you do.

Just problem solve." And I did, and by the end of the weekend, they had odor recognition and could even pinpoint some source and stuff, and I was blown away.

I was blown away then.

And-