Me, I don't think I have that restraint.

It's, it's not easy, but then you find a coping mechanism.

Me, I turn to ice cream sticks.

Every time I felt the urge to, like, oh, I'm stressed, I can push back, like, three ice cream sticks back to back, and it's like, you know?

Mm.

That's number one.

Number two, I've been working last year in Tanzania, so I was working with GIZ, working on nature-based solutions.

So I work a lot in the nature agricultural space.