[laughs] Oh my God

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I, I slept on an air mattress for the first six months of, of my time in Norman.

Uh, 'cause you're just on the road so much, like, figuring out the rest of life wasn't very important at the time.

[laughs] Um, so obviously hard work, you know, Hibble's a grinder and, uh, I th- I think I knew what hard work was, but that ratcheted up to a different level, for sure.

And, um, I, I, I think a big part of it, though, is just the culture at the University of Oklahoma.

I mean, I'm not here to brag about other schools, but that, the culture there and when you sat in a coaches meeting and you looked around the room, uh, and the amount of banners that are just hanging everywhere, and no one's talking about winning a national championship in a coaches room, but it's about processes and getting better.

Yeah.

Can you talk about what it is like recruiting the city of Memphis, whether it's local guys to Tennessee or, like you said, tapping into those international pockets?

Yeah.

First thing I would say is it's, it's been so much harder than I ever thought it would be.

And it frustrates me every single day.

Um, you know, I came again, coming from Oklahoma with a big brand and, um, everyone knew where you were and, and kind of what was going on.

And if they flipped on something on Saturday, they could probably see, um, And I feel like we actually – I think part of that frustration is I feel like we have a lot of those things here.

Frustration, frankly, the perception of the city has been hard to overcome.

What are some things that you're excited about heading into 26 and 27? Yeah,