Yeah

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both hierarchies this way but also, like, just differentiation, you know? And, and that's, that's a, that is a long historical phenomenon, you know? Stoners and mods and rockers in the UK.

So at the time there was sort of this, like, us versus them phenomenon of, like, in the video you see the jocks and the cheerleaders and everything was sort of the them, and the punk rock alternative kids or indie rockers or college music, whatever you wanna call it, was, was the us.

And it was like, you know, the ratios were, were 10 to one.

Like, we were definitely the minority.

The we in this case, so specific to my experience, but, like, it did also feel cultural.

Mm.