Mm-hmm.

Like, it is you versus the world, and you can either put up or shut up, and I think that was very freeing and why I was able to Find, um, my place in this industry is because I didn't have a lot of those things that would probably hold somebody back at the time.

And I had, you know, been really inspired by a lot of the girls that I ended up working with and becoming friends with.

Um, people that didn't just inspire me to do adult work, but inspired me to transition because when, you know, this was, this was coming from a time where there wasn't a lot of trans influencers-

Mm-hmm

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Blacked Raw, um, which the stylized, you know, neon lights, dark, you know, dungeon.

It was really cool.

And even if Meta was like, we're going to pull your account, someone from William Morris or CAA or whoever represents him, like, you're going to do what to our client? You know they have some back channel.

They absolutely do because I've had back channels before back when I was in the music industry, which I'm still doing.

I thought you said this was your only gig? Well, I mean, I'm starting to get back into it.

I've done porn now for a little over two years and There's not anywhere near as much studio work as there was, you know, when I first started.

And that's not because like I've fallen off or gotten ugly or whatever.

It's just more so like the ID laws, the political pulse in this country being very anti-sex work, very anti-porn.

They're outright banning like pornography in a lot of states, right? So it's like that has contributed to me having more free time.

Come on.

When I'm not,

I am a performer.

As an actor, gay, because they were in Brokeback Mountain.

No, right? Right.

No fucking, and they had to get, like, they had to talk about being in love with the same sex, with, like, really doing a character deep dive and, like, adopting, like, that's, like, I got a 30, 45 minute scene, you know, with, you know, a lot of it, you know, all of us are taking performance enhancers, right, to get through that.

Right.

I'm a performer, I love what I do, and I would like to think I'm good at it, right? But outside of that, when I find a guy in a room, and I'm seeing a straight man right now, who's been around lots of trans women, never been attracted to them, And the difference between that is the trans women they had been attracted or been around but weren't attracted to were not on HRT.

yeah with each

But yes.

Well, I don't even think she was like that great of a character, but like she's like the only trans idol out there at the moment.

Like there's not anyone that's like for a younger audience where young trans girls are watching and that's their example.

Right? Oh, sugar baby.

Right? And it's, like, I've lived that life, and I chose to be a porn star, like, over that kind of existence because, like, it really is volatile to be, like, hidden away, to be, like, just a possession.

At any moment, that lifestyle can end if they decide to cut.

I mean, it's not a fun life.

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