This is why we have to talk with Morocco.

Now, first of all, I'm surprised that my colleague says he trusts Morocco.

But Spain should stop cooperation with Morocco.

But if they would have stopped cooperation, how could they have brought back people? I think what we have to do now, today, in the current situation, is to help Ceuta.

And one question could be, what should we do with the people who are still staying there? Do we have places within Ceuta? And do they need more money, more staff to deal with them? Or is it having in mind that we are mostly talking about unaccompanied minors, even children, that they should be brought to European member states according to the pact of migration as a matter of solidarity so that their procedures will be done there and then to decide if they can stay or have to go back.

Do you think that all these people who cross the borders with Soutas are refugees or how big percentage of the people who cross the borders with Soutas are really real refugees?

Now, I don't know what you mean with real refugees.

I think the big number of people that arrived within only hours only shows that there must have been a kind of orchestration, misinformation that was organized to bring the people.