Right

... was involved in the business some way or, or the other.

And heck, at 10 years old, you know, I was filling water can fire extinguishers back then, you know, and painting cylinders.

But, you know, in high school I would come in after, uh, after hours and, and work part-time either testing or refilling the fire extinguishers.

And then when I turned 21, uh, my dad got me into sales, so I was calling on a lot of industrial, uh, companies out there.

We have a lot of refineries and big chemical plants in New Jersey, so I would sell fire hose and fire extinguishers.

And we had a few salesmen.

Oh, yeah.