Right.

I don't care who owned it.

If you get one of Kimura's trees, if it's in the US, you can exhibit it.

And then that's what I want to do.

Ended up after, like, 18 years, it's good for the economy because people wanna show a tree in the national exhibition, so they gotta buy a better tree or they gotta study more, then you gotta buy a pot.

You gotta buy a table.

They gotta buy wire and tools.

If you were to be able to hold a workshop tomorrow at an ABS convention, what would you want to have for your material, and h- what kind of students would you want to be there?