You guys weren't professional real estate developers or things like that, but how have you been used to really catalyze and activate growth in these particular neighborhoods around town? Whoever wants to start there.

So I took that interest in history and rehabbing old houses and ended up getting a master's in historic preservation at Ball State.

And I came out of that and started out as a main street manager in Richmond, Indiana, and did that for a couple of years and.

learned a tremendous amount there about the economic development side of downtown revitalization.

And from that, got interested in this idea of community development and community development organizations.

And they were fairly new at that point.

And I found out there was one looking for a director in Indianapolis.

Can you give us a real example with Boots on the Ground, a real town that you're working with where you've experienced the good, the bad, and the ugly? Apprise us of those three features as we wade into this.