So what is the current status now? How long, you know, what's the time frame? How long or the timeline, I should say? And how long are we going to have to wait for, you know, hopefully a favorable ending for us? What's the timeline and what are the chances that we still end up winning here?

Sure.

So obviously it was a great win, right, in the Cheeseman case.

That's not one of our cases.

But, you know, obviously thrilled to have seen the...

the community more broadly win here, right? And obviously, you know, living right in Pennsylvania, I've got a bunch of friends here.

So knowing that this has been vindicated on their behalf is a fantastic thing.

got to get employees every once in a while.

... tells you that you go ahead and do it, and if we decide that you broke the law, even though you can't know what the law is yet, we're gonna tell you, and we'll throw you in prison.

Exactly.

Right.

You know, like, the... what was actually at, at risk here for both the individuals and the manufacturers was if you sell something that you believe is an inanimate object, a non-firearm object, as we call them in the lawsuit, because it's something like an incomplete polymer 80 frame that is not a gun, cannot be used as a gun, because you would have to do additional things to it for it to be able to accept the parts necessary for it to be a gun, for it to meet the definition of firearm under the Gun, the Gun Control Act, um, you know, if it's not that, one of those things, you can just sell it online.

You can sell it to anybody because it's not a firearm under the law.

But if it is a gun, well, then all of the regulations that we all know and hate apply.

You know, you have to send it to an FFL, a 4473, a background check.

So w- what does that mean realistically? What can we do now that we couldn't do before?

Just give us enough time to make it work." Right?

Sure thing.

Yeah.

I mean, I, I think that that's largely right.

I mean, the... look, the, the reality is that the big, beautiful bill, while it was big and omnibus and did a lot of things, um, it was a budget reconciliation bill, and so there were limits as to what sort of policy changes to the NFA could be made.

But what could be changed was the tax burden, um, on a number of the categories of arms that are included in the NFA, including short-barrel rifles, short-barrel shotguns, silencers, and any other weapons, also known as AOWs.

Um, and so when those tax burdens were cut down to zero, the problem that, uh, the, the government now had is that all along, Congress relied upon its authority under the Constitution to levy taxes in order to pass the NFA.

Hmm.

But I'm curious, like the Baker Act in Florida or 5150, Penal Code 5150 in California, are those considered yellow flag laws or is there a significant difference or is it just too hard to tell? Because like I said, there's no exact definition.

So you're absolutely right that similar to red flag laws, there is no real definition.

It's kind of a broad category.

It's an idea.

It's a concept more than it is a real defined policy.

I think that the Baker Act in Florida and the 5150 law in California are notably different.

I don't know if kind of colloquially people consider these yellow flag laws, but I think they're notably different in a couple of ways.

But is there an unfortunate resistance to supporting yellow flag laws?