Okay.

Yeah.

So a lot of things like that happen as well.

Okay.

And so a couple of highlights as we go down and look at this.

Another one you look at is the Class 400.

That's our industrial property sector, and it looks like that went up 13.7%.

this is how the

And I think that's what happened with your daughter a little bit, right? Like there wasn't anything physical at the beginning.

We're under the impression that it wasn't Now we live, my wife, my son and I live outside of Baltimore.

Kristen at that time had just graduated from St. Joseph's University outside of Philadelphia.

It's about 125 miles apart.

So it wasn't like we were in constant contact.

I mean, she's in college.

She's in her last semester.

Thank you for joining me on today's episode of Loveless Law.

I mean, I know you well, but I'm gonna let you kind of speak for yourself.

Yeah, I mean, I kind of, uh, I wouldn't have volunteered into this whole world, um, and the reason for that is that it all has to do with dating abuse and domestic violence.

The way I got into this was with a phone call from police on June 3rd, 2005, to inform me that my daughter, who had graduated college 20 days earlier, had been murdered by her ex-boyfriend just that day, the day that I got that call.

So, um, you know, that, that kinda sends your, your whole life on a different trajectory.

And for me, my wife, my son, and all our family members and friends.

You know, once you kind of begin to breathe a little bit normally after the first year of just trying to get this through your head as to what just happened, but also see that the guy that did it got into prison at least for a while.

Then as time wore on, I gave a lot of speeches and then thought, I wanna write a book about this because I felt by that point, which was about 10 years into it, that I had learned enough that I could share and do a good job of sharing what I learned.

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My parents met during World War II in Florida.

My father was a fighter pilot training people to go off to war, as he would eventually.

Love at first sight.

They were married.

That was 1946.

I came along in 1950.

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No.

And nobody wants their kid in a domestic violence situation of any description.

So it's, it's asking you to do something that's not going to feel right, but you have to show a lot of patience.

And one of the things to jump to this place, let's say you discover this person's in an abusive relationship.

This person's on the receiving end.

That person, it's not that different from alcoholism.

That person has to decide when that relationship is over.

Mm-hmm

And if you had it your way and you could go for a day with no responsibilities or cares, kind of what's your favorite flavor of fishing?

I think that answer has changed pretty dramatically recently.

I've caught the tuna bug, as I think most people have.

But my love for stripers, especially targeting stripers in skinny water, has never waned.

If there are 20-inch fish blitzing on bay anchovies in the harbor, I'm always stopping and fishing that.

So I really learned how to fish successfully out of a kayak.

And I learned how to target mudflats and eelgrass beds and channels and figured out how stripers and bait really interact with that environment.

Just wanted to give you a minute to talk about the new moon phase and kind of from your perspective, what's going on in Cape Cod Bay?

I mean, the real actual storyline here about what the neoliberal project is today was and what its intentions are and why people have got it wrong when they think the benevolent government is going to swoop in and save them.

Yeah, well, I think you have to see the government as an institution.

And what MMT provides us with, as you use the words lens, and I introduced that term some many years ago, to differentiate between a lens and an ideology or a set of values.

And what MMT does is provide you with just a clearer lens into understanding how monetary systems, in other words, economies that use currencies, which are all the economies, how those currencies actually work and what the intrinsic capacities of the currency issuer are within a monetary system, and then what the implications are of using those capacities in different ways to implement public policy.

Now that's where MMT ends.

It's a very clear framework for understanding those things.

But that's the end of it.

Oh, yeah, but there's a whole lot of them, isn't there? Oh,

Mm.

might be 2% to 14%.

Though everywhere the statistical estimates were very wide.

Well, what does that mean? That means that the central bankers are now entrusted to pursue a NAIRU and deliberately cause unemployment to get it there.

If it's 2% or 14% or 8%, the official figure, It's so vague in operational terms that it couldn't have possibly been a guide to economic policy.

That was the first point.

And this is the sort of work I did in my doctorate, by the way.

Bill, workers in the job guarantee having bargaining power and...

A dedicated space for serious evidence-based research grounded on a clear understanding on how our monetary system really works.

The job guarantee can broaden our perception of what contribution to society is by the types of jobs that we design and implement.

And in doing that, we can move further and further away from this, you're only worth something if you're generating profit for private corporations and move towards a much more broader view of human contribution.

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OK, so sound all right? Cool.

OK, well, thanks very much for whoever did invite me.

And I'm very happy to be here and...

And to some extent, you know, we've been at, well, I've been at this with Warren for 30 years.