How big, right now, what's going on with the main people around the weight class, whether it's welterweight or junior welterweight or whatever, that this O is important? Do you think that matters?

I believe that it's the experience that matters and how you look at it.

You know what I mean? We're a very faithful family.

You know what I mean? We believe that Allah makes no mistakes.

And we know for sure what was perceived as a loss that day with Ryan Garcia has turned out to be a win.

And not that it was a win on our record.

but we learned a lot about ourselves.

Stop showing the videos, because that may be scaring some people off.

How big, right now, what's going on with the main people around the weight class, whether it's welterweight or junior welterweight or whatever, that this O is important? Do you think that matters?

I believe that it's the experience that matters and how you look at it.

You know what I mean? We're a very faithful family.

You know what I mean? We believe that Allah makes no mistakes.

And we know for sure what was perceived as a loss that day with Ryan Garcia has turned out to be a win.

And not that it was a win on our record.

but we learned a lot about ourselves.

Stop showing the videos, because that may be scaring some people off.

Or is this just after you both on dispute? Or would you entertain the fight if it came through?

I mean, you know, he's on the list.

But I think what's happening is a collective of fans that represent different guys on the list.

You've seen fans rally around Brian Norman, right? You've seen fans rally around this Boots fight as if I said that it would happen next.

What I do ask of their fans is accountability.

And the fact that what Boots and his team and everyone said is that he wanted to undisputed at 147 pounds.

We've undisputed before.

Are they saying they're willing to do that in order to make these big fights? Or are they just saying, you know, we're going to move on to the next person who really want to fight and what we're trying to pay them? What's the network's involvement with all this?

I just want clarity, you know, like, was it not a hundred million and that's why you decided like did they did they say it was a hundred and then when push came to shove it wasn't there and that's why you decided to keep the belt because i'm just saying like you already got legacy devon is already a three division champion former undisputed and i don't know we don't know how long the deal is for but if he wants more legacy you can always get that after the hundred million dollars that you said was there um So, yeah, if you could just give us some clarity, because that's kind of the burning question for us.

Well, I mean, when you're worth what you're worth, that continues to grow no matter what.

I mean, if you're doing the right things and you're trying to make the right fights happen, you know, you have the investors that are pleased with you.

And you were very deliberate.

and you were smooth in the way that you said that I said 100 millions, and it being tied to Zufa.

Well, the 100 million that I spoke on is tied to a bank.

That's what it's tied to.

Go ahead,

It's a fight that's going to get hard.

Why are you hating on Shakur? Cut, cut, cut, stop, stop.

and stop the caller and all the caller's madness.

Boy, Ness, boy, you looking like a model.

Boy, you done did the .

You done transformed.

They don't want none of this shit, Bill.

I

I mean, I don't like that he's going down to 144

for this fight.

Man, who gives a fuck? Man, it's Deebo, man.

And you know what we do when he makes a decision? We get behind him.

It's not something that, from a business standpoint, that I'm going to do or that I want to be doing.

Let me let the record reflect to know that.

I've always said that I'm there to give him the best business decision, but he's Deebo.

I'm going to see if he deleted the tweet because that's what I was told.

Gotcha.

Yeah, yeah.

So, you know, and then, so, and, and, and, and to answer your question, Nes, no, it's not important that...

And it's not to shame anyone.

What I'm doing is, is, is promoting who Devin is and raising the, the bar in which Devin is, and saying, "This is what we do to make the fights happen." And it doesn't have anything to do with belts.

We didn't put...

We think that Keyshawn deserves to be on there.

Your son had Bill and Devin had.

Mm-hmm.

So naturally when we speak, and we speak on camera, right? When I told him, I was like, "Some of the shit, man ...

" You know what I mean? When, when, when guys who put their life on the line, who, who then have to go home short while you give to women, right, in front of the guys, that's, that's ...

I didn't think that that was necessarily cool.

When your kids aren't ...

When your kids are doing things that they shouldn't do for money, 'cause you don't give them the money that you give to women for nothing.

Now, I'm not looking at women and looking at him and saying what he should be doing.

You know, think about Lavar Ball, Deion Sanders, um, um, Richard Williams, you know, for Venus and Ser- It's always been a negative energy, and I don't know if you dealt with that with your son being a top boxer.

Yeah.

The money division, the glamour division.

Uh, something that, you know, not only has my, my, my, my guy, my big homie Wrighton taught me that, uh, it's time to get the money.

Mm-hmm.

And who- whoever wants to mix it up at 147 pounds for, for, uh, that, you know what I mean, then that's what we gonna go with.

So, so if it's at a catch weight.

And when, when Shakur- If, if it's at a catch weight, 144, then it wouldn't be for the belt.

Peace.

Why boxing? When did boxing come into Devin Haney's life?

Well, Devin found boxing, you know what I mean, just the way that a cowboy finds his first horse.

And he's been riding ever since, in a sense of, I was never going to give up on my son, and I never was going to let any professional of any sort say that he needed any kind of medicine, that he needed any kind of counseling.

I was actually looking for something that fit, that he could be passionate about.

So we did basketball, we did football, we did all the traditional sports.

You did.

Yeah.

Deb owned that moment.

Yes.

Now, who was doing the grabbing? If you go back and look at the film, it was Brian Norman the one that was doing the grabbing and was- and it was Devon that we kept yelling, "Chip away, champ.

Chip away." And every time Devon, he would get buh-bump, buh-bump, bump, bump.

He was still in it, he was still in...

And- and, you know, Brian Norman Jr came out and he...

I mean, Brian Norman Sr came out and said that, uh, it was...

You know, when you listen to what people say, what they don't say, and what they never will say.

As someone who has been in the game for a long time, how do you feel about this, some of these changes? Would you like to see them happen? Would you like to see this bill passed? Or do you think the Ali Act is just fine as it is?

Hmm.

Something that we earned the opportunity to do.

But with Devin at being 26 years old and fighting more world champions than anyone, you can look it up, at 26, whether you're Canelo, you're Floyd, uh, Pernell Whitaker, by the time you're 26 and you fought seven world champions and beat them in some capacity, shape, or form, in any which way that you want to pick it, he did it, it's historic.

You can call it boring, you can call it whatever you can wanna, call it, but you gotta call it winning, Ariel.

You gotta call it winning.

And that's the name of the game, is to win.

So we've heard some criticism going back and forth about this and that.

For sure.