Um, how, how are these things relate, related to each other?

Well, um, [clears throat] when we w- uh, we pulled together, uh, three different, um, no, four, uh, myself, Eric Pepper, uh, Richard McAlister, and Penny Jean, each did our own separate, um, work with pain.

And, um, we each found varying results, and it's gonna be part of our presentation where, um, I think a lot of people are familiar with Dr. Pepper's work, um, with the Sufi piercing himself.

And you would think, "Wow, is that somebody experiencing a lot of pain?" However, the gentleman was quite a showman, and he seemed to be enjoying himself.

So we were looking out at the alpha gating for that and incorporating work that's already been well-established, the pain metrics, matrix, and, um, Mark Smith and others' work on the triple network, uh, theory with the central executive network, default mode network, and the salience network, where alpha gating is highly involved in being able to switch those different networks.

And long story short, I, um, was helping a, um, research, uh, development center in Oklahoma.

I had my hand, arm in a cold presser.

There's just does it react in a certain way, and now we can measure it.