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Um, but, uh, my line father, uh, was Chris Thurmonie.

My line grandfather was Cal Puana.

Um, I was trained by some of the best, uh, Bob Young, Dan Wicks, Steve Norville, uh, Pat, I, um, Tommy.

I mean, I can, I can list 20 guys my first 10 years that took me under their wing and, and was basically my family and, and, and taught me.

But what they did is, is they instilled probably three words, and I, I wear 'em out today.

It, it's train, mentor, and coach, and those are my beliefs today on, um, in my present j- I never knew that was gonna take me to this part.

So let's talk about that for a second, because that's a mindset that a lot of corporate people don't have.