You want to share a little bit more on that?

Yeah, I mean, I'll quote people much smarter than I am on this topic.

One of the things that I mentioned quite often is Sam Altman, who's one of the founders of OpenAI and ChatGPT.

He said that AI is going to go in this counterintuitive order.

So I think most of us, including myself, expected self-driving semi-trucks and AI is going to automate spreadsheets and that kind of stuff.

But he says it goes in this counterintuitive order.

It's going to go creative fields first.

I'm curious, do you think this technology and this era that we're going into is going to allow small firms to compete with larger firms on larger projects?

I mean, exactly.

Yeah, this totally speeds up the process for just creating a rendering.

Like you said, we went from this asymmetric kind of elevation look to now this 3D perspective with this beautiful rendering.

Not only that, the other big shift, the disruption that's happening is not just like visualization, but there's this quote that someone said that I really gravitate to.

And like they said, we used to model to render.

Now we render to model.

And so the process has also been inverted because and I'll share like, well, first I'll just say now rather than, you know, building out your Revit model and, you know, applying your materials and then sending it to the render engine and heading render.

Go ahead.

So can you talk about how your strategy has shifted and how you're doing that today?

Yeah, I'm going to give a quick caveat.

So I'm like a kind of a unique operator now.

So I'm not as actively involved in like going to find, underwrite, negotiate all of these deals.

And so most of what I do today is I work with other partners of mine to be the operational side of the business.

And then I can bring the capital and some of the kind of guidance, mentorship, maybe run some of the finance and P&L, depending on what relationship it is.

and how long we've been together.

Somebody's probably thinking, well, we invest in my flips bill, or if I invest with you, where are you going to put the money?

[upbeat music] Have you ever, um, ever had a relationship that you're in, marital or work or friendship, that has been damaged to the point where you think, "I've ruined it this time.

There's no coming back from this"? Well, let's have a look at a story here today, and it might give you a bit of, uh, confidence that there's no such thing as an irrevocably damaged relationship for those that look to the Lord and love the Lord.

So if you turn with me to the last chapter of the Gospel of John, chapter 21.

I'm just gonna read through it, and then I'll go back over it and comment on it a bit maybe.

So verse one, "After these things, Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.

There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee," which is James and John, "and two other of his disciples.

Can you tell us a little bit about what Hell Track's all about?

Sure.

I want to compare it to maybe Princess Bride, where you've got the oldster spinning some tails of what may or may not have happened at the time.

So it allows the storytellers, including myself and Sam and um steve to take the narrative into places maybe expand on it uh and maybe uh show who was partaking or watching hell track at the time that wasn't depicted in the movie so there's a lot of easter eggs planted throughout and it does retell the story from crew's now aged mind So he is bound to get some details wrong, possibly on purpose to blow up his legacy, as people do.

So it's got that kind of retelling of the story.

And it does tell the story of Rad, but after some decades have passed.

And so we had a lot of fun with that aspect of it.

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That's it.

Yeah.

And, you know, the hard part is, so obviously, you know, I've been coaching people for a long time myself now.

and i know that they're doing it i know it's happening the problem is and and i see all three of us we can sit on this podcast and be like yeah that's stupid like why would they do that okay that's first of all it's not going to help so because we know that like we if you talk about you know story arc and hero's journey like we we already came back with the elixir we already figured it out like you got to follow the recipe right but when you're in it you're like I'm not sure about this.

And let me tell you where it's breaking down today in 2026.

There's too many people in your ear.

This is what's happening.

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