us solely on who's in power and that's the problem we have people that are in power across the world that would rather burn it all down when all most of us in the world would just want to live and be happy and functioning and have peace and that's enough go

ahead and have a safe life for your children That's a universal desire.

And I think America is very often ahead of us in Europe.

So we see something happen in the US.

And then four years later, we also have politicians who make fake news videos and have weird hair and are populist.

So very often what happens in the US happens in Europe.

That's why when I see the resistance in the US and people standing up, I feel very positive because I think, go ahead show us show us the way um and we have to judge people individually because the dutch have a terrible track record around the world we're a tiny country but we've done terrible things um and and we need to all try to heal together and and judge each other on a personal level.

That's always a possibility.