[laughs]

And I g- I, yeah, I don't know if I could like...

I lived in Perth.

I'm from Perth.

And we have, like, an amazing art, not even like art scene there, but like a lot of artists, like a really amazing artist.

And probably growing up in Perth, I think, is when I...

Not even, like, seeing particular artworks, but I became friends with a lot of artists, and just the way that they made work was just, like, really exciting to me.

but also being something, a beacon for them to fly to?