
Beth Mallow
Dr. Beth Malow, MD, MS is a neurologist and sleep medicine specialist — Professor of Neurology and Pediatrics at Vanderbilt University Medical Center and Director of the Vanderbilt Sleep Disorders Division.
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Jul 22, 2026
The U.S.-Iran Showdown, Hegseth’s Capitol Hill Test, Sleep Health & the Story Behind Empire of Ink
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Beth MalowGUEST
And you might say, why is morning light important? Because it aligns our brains and bodies with the outside world.
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Some scoff at political bridge-building efforts. What are they missing?
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Doug TeschnerGUEST
But we think it can start from the ground up with our own little actions that can make a difference.

Beth MalowGUEST
I just wanted to add and maybe elaborate on your specific question, Zach, about the idea that when we protest or resist, that it can add an element of that anger and that contempt that can then cause others on the other side maybe to react and then you start getting into this us versus them.

Beth MalowGUEST
I definitely view myself as predominantly a bridge builder, as does Doug, and I think that really motivated us to write this book.

Beth MalowGUEST
However, I've learned through my interactions with a lot of different people since the book came out, and being a liberal myself, leaning more to the left, I definitely see the The anger, and I think it's important for bridge builders like us to realize that it's hard when people feel that the world is on fire, right? That the world is burning down.

Beth MalowGUEST
To understand the work we're doing and embrace some of what Doug is saying and what you write about so eloquently in your book and what I truly believe in my heart.

Beth MalowGUEST
which is that if we're going to get the fire to go out, if we're going to stop the fire, we need to start with hope.
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