Right.

Even the hook, the melody.

And like, I hate writing lyrics and everything, but once I have a hook or a melody, I don't really care.

But then for more kind of structured songs, like that heavier one, sometimes it takes a while, and sometimes I just bring bits from other where, other pa- like I go through my phone and I kinda say, "Right, I can change the key in that, and I can bring it in here, and I can bring it into this." But I think what happened with that song, I find that it was probably a bit too heavy for me.

It was kind of a bit too kind of punky, and then I was like, "Well, I need to find a hook here now." You know? And I always wanna find a, I always, like, want to find a hook because I think in every single song that I, I do, I think there has to be a hook.

I don't know.

That's just something that I...

[laughs]