Like your stuff.

Yeah.

He just, I didn't, I don't know.

I was like kind of a boomer, a Luddite.

I was like, I'll just, you know, if you want to make it and stand up, you make it with, you network, you make friends with bigger comics, you make friends with the Booker.

And I was still kind of like thinking about that.

Just I'll send my tape into this comedy club and see if they get it.

Is your private practice your own or you were like a corporate practitioner still or not?

Try working with him.

Yeah.

And then Patience, I go by a fake name.

It's a stage name.

And I just do it so Patience couldn't find me.

And I worked for this dentist that I didn't...

I was his associate, and I knew he would be upset if he found out I was doing stand-up.

So how did you choose your alter ego, your stage name? do we get to know or is it secret