Can you walk us through this framework and using the metaphor, as you like, the building of a house? Sure.

Yes.

Yeah.

So I think one of the core ideas behind the report was I wanted to go beyond simply recommending the tool.

I mean, don't get me wrong.

Tools are very valuable.

Right.

If a government agency listening to the show wanted to start strengthening the connection between their foresight and planning functions tomorrow, what would be your top three recommendations?

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it's also a very tough one.

I think it's probably out of all the potential challenges that you could have in trying to do this.

I think that's probably the biggest challenge.

And of course, you know, this is a problem in many, many places, right? Also a problem in many Asian governments.

So I think there are a couple of important recommendations there.

So one of them is that you have to carefully consider who is actually going to lead these strategic foresight groups.

And can you give us an example for maybe some of the four case studies that you really looked at? An example of an effective value proposition in this area.