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... thing in my life.

The very first faculty actually at the camp that Kendall had was himself, David Ohanian, who was, you know, two, two people removed from me in the quintet, um, one of my heroes, and Abby Mayer, you know, for natural horn.

He actually was the first alp horn I ever saw.

It was Abby bringing that into the later holes.

And so I'm, you know, now I'm, now I'm, like, full-blown in the profession.

I'm a well-known entity.

Well, for you to, for you to be the catalyst for all of this and to take this responsibility, I'm sure this was like a, a blessing and a curse when Kendall said, "You have the mantle to keep this going."