But that loss of confidence and lack of, you don't trust things.

Yes.

And I think also it has an enormous impact on the self-esteem of people who face digital accessibility barriers.

And the classic example that when we were developing, so we developed an e-learning course on this.

We called it MIDA, Making Your Documents Accessible.

And this e-learning course, we created an animated video of a person who has low vision who required a screen reader and was going into a meeting.

and had to have the latest data to present to a group of stakeholders who were going to make a decision about something.

actually