So, so maybe you're gonna walk us through the, the, the history, what brought you where you are right now, and, and in particular, what was this moment when you said like, "No, that's-- it's not enough if you just stop the emissions"?

Well, it's a long story.

Uh, I'll try not to get lost into the details.

Uh, it, it-- but it really is a, a long story.

Uh, in 19, um...

Well, first of all, I, I, I started as a tree planter, uh, in, in Canada, um, when I was about 19, if my memory is good.

And, uh, I was looking at all this biomass that was left by the forestry sector, uh, behind, a lot of waste, a lot of losses, and I was saying one day I believe we could do something with this, uh, dead wood.

You mean the re-- You mean reduce emissions?