And then full time, this whole, this whole two years, were you planning on getting back in?

Yes.

Yeah.

So the whole few years I went through a process of really tell you truth.

It was an emotional process for me because I, I, I really, you know, kind of just told myself maybe I wouldn't do it.

I was all in my head a little bit.

And my wife was like, you know, you'll be crazy.

How are we going to get there?

Can you talk about these, these camp styles, what they are and, and what that means to the person looking for camping gear?

Yeah.

So, um, w- I can't remember who we were working with at the time that kinda helped us come up with this, this sorta theory of camp to ride and ride to camp, but breaking it down in the simplest form, uh, especially for new riders trying to figure out what gear works best for them and kinda being realistic with themselves.

So a lot of people who are doing, uh, like, "I'm going to go do the Smoky Mountain 500," which is a, a little adventure loop, uh, in Western North Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia.

And that is more...

This trip's gonna be more of a, a camp to ride kinda trip because we're camping to facilitate the riding.

Uh, camping is just the, the way to make sure we're staying on track and, and keeping up with the trail, and, um, and it's just gonna be kind of more of a fast pace, so we're gonna be riding a lot.

[laughs] Right.