Would you say that being on this level, does it put pressure on you when somebody commissions you?

Sometimes, like with Buffett, it kind of did.

It kind of got to me a little bit because he's just such a big deal, you know, and with pop culture icons, it's like, even another level, because like Borlaug and Daisy Bates, I put everything I had into these pieces.

But the fact is that even though they're as important as anybody in U.S. history, not a lot of people know what they look like.

So although the family or others real close to them will be strict on the portrait, the public perception level is a lot different than it is for somebody like Jimmy Buffett.

Like Jimmy Buffett, everybody knows what he looks like.

It has to be accurate.

What has been a gray area for you in the sculpting world?