So first of all, tell me about this discovery and about how crazy it must have felt at the time.

Yeah, I mean, you know, the reason that you didn't learn about this in school is that, as you said, you know, most of these species were unknown up until very recently.

I mean, I think of the kind of the ones that were around 60,000 years ago, the one discovered first, of course, were Neanderthals in the 19th century, but then Homo floresiensis from the island of Flores was only discovered...

The hobbit.

Yes, The Hobbit was only published in 2004.

The Nice Events we published in 2010.

I mean, Homo Lusonensis from the Philippines came out about 2015, 16, something like that.

Generally speaking, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but modern Asians have more Denisovan and Neanderthal DNA than, let's say, Europeans or people from sub-Saharan Africa, right? Does that add any sort of like piece to the mosaic of this story of the Denisovans?

So help me get clear on that.

Yeah, so what happened is about, think about 600,000 years ago, a group of humans moved out of Africa.

And they moved into Asia, part of them.

Those became the Denisovans.

Another part moved into Europe.

Those became the Neanderthals.

And actually, the group that stayed in Africa are our direct ancestors.

How did that happen?