Why the change?

Look, it's something I've always wanted to do.

Uh, I looked at it about 10 years ago, seriously, but, uh, the kids were still at school and my wife had just started her own business, and it just seemed a bit indulgent and a little bit irresponsible to do that at that time.

So I kind of just parked it and put it on the shelf, and I blame my daughter a little bit because she did, uh, midwifery and, uh, loved that.

And so I saw her enjoy that, and I thought, "Oh, maybe it's not too late." And then, yeah, my wife just said, "Stop talking about it, and give it a crack." So that was the impetus for starting.

And then it was about COVID when I did a Diploma of Emergency Healthcare.

I thought, "I'll, I'll try that just to see if it's a romantic notion or whether I-

Yeah, right.