Yeah,

I remember listening to music on, like, 4Music, I can't remember the channel, but it'd be a top 20 and they'd all have music videos, so I think we've busted it because I spend so much time watching videos that I've taken and, like, watching back their concerts, like, Pig Can Fly, Pigs Can Fly, I've got a DVD but it's on YouTube so it's easier to watch it that way.

The Greatest Hits concert, that's on Apple Music, so...

I pay for that purely to watch that, which sounds ridiculous, but there we go.

so yeah not idea but not ideal but it's fine it's all good you know but that's an amazing thing what did you say to him did you like

I crumbled is what happened I know that much I got the first thing I said and I hate myself this is can I get a photo please because I didn't think I'd have it in me to say anything else you know just got so nervous so quickly he asked me what my name was and if I enjoyed the show.

And I said that I didn't actually see this one.

I came early and you didn't, you weren't here.

They call it a multi-pathway strategy, but it isn't this just a massive bet on technological obsolescence that could leave investors high and dry as global regulations tighten.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's a huge bet on a technology that could quickly face obsolescence.

So Toyota brought the first commercial hybrid vehicle to market, the Prius, back in the late 90s.

That's almost 30 years ago, if you can believe it.

And at the time, Toyota gained some green credentials.

This is a vehicle where you can save fuel, you're doing your bit for the environment.

Do you think we're on the verge of a fundamental shift where capital markets stop treating car makers as growth tech and start pricing them as high risk legacy energy liabilities?