And Ben, tell us, uh, how did you get into coaching?

Um, yeah, the background is pretty much in sports science and, uh, doing some endurance sport for myself.

And then after studying sports science, the first step as a self-employed was pretty much having or offering, like, professional lab testing, specializing in lactate testing and gas analyzers.

And, um, yeah, it was, for myself, I was way more interested in understanding the data and understanding as well why the athletes perform than just simply looking at the results maybe.

And, um, yeah, over time, I really wanted to take more responsibility, um, as well and become part of the whole process of maybe, let's say, individual performance.

And, uh, yeah, that's maybe the path into it.

Like, really interested, like, how human performance is unfold and then, yeah, being responsible in little parts as well for the whole process.

Mm-hmm

But I, yeah, with you, it's a bit different now, right? You didn't really grow up doing a bunch of triathlons.

None really.

So what did you, where do you come from? What did you, what was your sport of choice when you were a kid? Germany, the 90, I reckon.

So I joined a football club like most of the kids do it in our country.

Yeah.

Training went up to maybe five times a week and the match on the weekends.

It was kind of a young athlete's life still.

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