Yeah

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the facilitation of committees and, and, and these kind of things.

And they, they basically had a big problem in that that organization, um, we, we were hired by the CTO, so was suffering from significant technology, technical debt, but, but more from a kind of customer point of view, and particularly the key customer for the, for this support organization is, is like the Clerk of the Commons, so the, the administrative civil servant who is responsible for the running of, of Parliament.

And they were, they were not able to control what, what was being done, what technology was being built-

Oh, yeah.

And, and then it all got thrown out be- in Parliament by, uh, politicians because there was this kind of, you know, national outcry.

Um, and I, I did write a piece to say, "Look, would it have made a difference," as sort of counterfactual, "had this been done in a desi- in, you know, like we...