And I'm curious if you've felt that tension.

Yes, definitely felt that tension.

And to be honest, I think, I hope most folks in the climate space are feeling that tension too.

On one hand, climate change is an existential issue, but at the same time, watching communities throughout Minnesota being targeted systematically has felt pretty existential too.

And I think, you know, it's a tension, but it's also a false dichotomy.

I think we can and should wrestle with both.

I'm seeing organizations show up in different ways, too.

How are you feeling? Do you have a sense that both democracy and climate still have a fighting chance?