Should you worry about AI? And you think we as a country, Australia, we're ready for the opportunities and the curses like the punishment I would say that comes with AI.

I wouldn't say it as a punishment.

It's understanding AI is a tool.

It's like a hammer for a builder.

AI can be very powerful in the sense that if used correctly, can make businesses more streamlined.

Now, part of my presentation that I did last week, essentially my header that was on there is AI should never replace someone.

It should make the people currently working more efficient in their task.

And, and all of other stuff.

We always like to start by giving our audience just an overview of your career and your current role at FICO.

Yeah, I'd be happy to do that.

So I've been in the security space for over twenty-five years now.

Kinda started my career as the, the lone cybersecurity person who...

the only person in the IT department who actually cared about security, and turned that into a role at a, a small startup called RightNow Technologies.

Uh, we were acquired in twenty twelve by Oracle, and we were one of the first cloud acquisitions that Oracle had done at that point.

And so a lot of us, we were a cloud-native company, so a lot of us that were there kinda defaulted into some cloud leadership roles inside of Oracle.

Where do you feel, where do you feel Mythos and Fable and some of these newer, you know, more sophisticated class models, w-where is that going to force folks to kinda change their, either their software development life cycle or vulnerability management or even bug disclosure processes? Where, where do you feel like that's gonna force some change there?