And there's some work to be done in the turf grass industry on a big scale too, is there not?

Absolutely.

And so that's where it kind of, I got.

The thought of our current business, my wife's the co-founder with me.

We've been in business now officially, legally as a company for three months.

So we're just at the very beginning phases of things.

So we're working on scaling, working on our procedures and how we make our worm castings how we produce our compost all that but working in the turf grass industry I kind of I learned how to grow grass and here in Arizona I'm sure you're probably aware most of the soil systems on golf courses are all sand based so there's very low organic matter content and it basically comes down to all synthetic inputs in order to keep that grass alive And with my interest in vegetables and gardening that I got as a kid, and the knowledge of landscaping I had as a teenager and in my early 20s, I decided I want to take all of this stuff that I've learned and bring it together into a process that's going to be more beneficial to, number one, our environment, but also to our culture and society and how we can move from, there was this push for sustainability.

So what makes regenerative gardening different than traditional gardening?