Where did this start? What got you into this world?

Yeah, you know, I spent a lot of time thinking about when was the first spark.

And it's hard because it happened so young for me.

I know my father wasn't a pilot, but he was into aviation.

And so that naturally rubbed off.

And I was just, you know, I always say there's two kinds of people.

One who, when they fly commercially, gets off the airplane and can tell you what kind of airplane they were on.

And, and you built up a pretty significant side portion of that with your, with your legal aspiring pilot into a world of legal and then now CEO, you know, and that, that progression.