It's like picking between children.

Not really.

I mean, they're, uh, Lent.

Yeah.

Um, cause you have a little bit more time.

Advent, Advent can be quick sometimes.

Yeah.

Why do you love the angels?

Yeah.

So, so I came into the Dominicans, and as I came into the Dominicans, I was like, "Oh," like, "maybe, maybe I could go get a PhD in sports psychology and do this like sports psych priest," you know, kind of ...

Then, and then eventually I realized, no, I kinda gotta let that go [laughs] like, and, um, because I n- I could see I still just wanted to be the a- I wanted to be now the athlete who was also a priest.

Mm.

I'm gonna be in control.

And so I am looking, I'm learning all this stuff about mobility.

When I was in college, terrible mobility, terrible form on everything.

But I'm like, oh, okay, now I'm gonna, I'm gonna really be mobile and, and do all these different exercises.

But I'd love to just hear... within that story and within that context, how your spiritual life matured and how that helped you both in your athletic career, but now in your vocation or entering your vocation.

Yeah, for sure.

So I grew up in Minnesota.

I'm from the Twin Cities area, kind of Northwest suburbs of the Twin Cities.

And just... growing up, like as a family, we, we went to mass every week.

We would pray all the time growing up.

Like we prayed before we went to bed as a family growing up and things like that.

Mm-hmm.