But I should imagine it's 90% of all cybercrime, isn't it, fraud?

There's certainly a very large overlap.

It'd be wrong to say all fraud is cybercrime and the same way it'd be wrong to say all cybercrime is fraud, but there is a massive overlap.

A large proportion of fraud is these days cyber-enabled.

With the increase in technology, it's easier.

And what common forms do they take? What's your most common types of fraud that you get involved in? The most common types that we deal with will be what we call social engineering-type frauds, which is a very broad term, but specifically we will deal with more of the phishing-type fraud.

So, for instance, if you receive a text message from someone saying that they're trying to deliver a parcel online, click this link to get it re-delivered at a different date, but actually you click the link and you go to a malicious website.

But what's the future for your team? What will you

What's your, uh, what's your process? How do you make that?

Uh, so there's a really simple formula, and it's like, it's, it's basically, it's water, and then half of that, as much water as vinegar, and half of that is sugar, and half of that is salt.

Okay.

Uh, and these are dill pickles, so they've got dill, they've got mustard seeds, they've got, uh, um, peppercorns, and a bit of garlic in there.

And, um, yeah.

Uh, th- th- the thing I'm most proud of.

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I want to know what's going on off the pitch because I imagine the experience of going along to watch cricket at Lord's, the home of cricket in London, first test of the summer, must be quite an experience, Ben.

Well, I lived in London for five years, and I actually didn't live that far from Lourdes, but I never went because it costs $75,000 New Zealand dollars to go for one day.

And so I used to go to the Oval, which is much more accessible.

But so it was my first time to Lourdes, first day at Lourdes, and there is a certain magic to it.

But I was sort of around St. John's Wood, you know, early this morning, and it was just a lot of people who look like you, Jeremy, to be honest.

You know... sort of white guys in stripy ties.

And, you know, I'm used to going to cricket in New Zealand generally where, you know, people sort of turn up half cut and wearing anything from nothing to, you know, maybe a Warriors jersey.

How likely do you reckon that is from what you've seen?