But was there a moment that you can look back to in your, your career journey where it felt like your paradigm shifted?

Yeah.

I think, uh, i-i-it, it was a gradual thing for me, but I, I, I think 2020, around then and w-with COVID happening, a-around then was when things really started to solidify for me.

So basically, three things were happening at that time.

One was COVID.

Um, I had tons of friends who were losing their jobs because their jobs, there was no demand and, and, uh, you know, they, they, they, the, their companies couldn't, couldn't pay for them to keep working.

Meanwhile, I just stopped working at the office, continued to work from home, no threat whatsoever of my job, uh, being lost.

So, I, I, I mean, I think it could be helpful to get, like, an actual flavor of, like, when we say theology of work, like, what does that even mean necessarily? Like, could you share a little bit about how you view, uh, working as an actuary in terms of the kingdom perspective?